I don’t vote but, that’s a whole other blog. I do want to talk about California Proposition 8 (2008) though. The gist of Prop 8 is that “Only marriages between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California”. Simple enough right? Not so fast… There are men who want to marry men and there are women who want to marry women. That’s not normal is it? By “today’s” standards, it’s not. But at one point in our nation’s history interracial marriage was also frowned upon and according to the US Census Bureau, interracial marriage is more common today than ever before. Could gay marriage claim that same realization?
Despite my beliefs/religion, I have always supported Prop 8, wondering why homosexuals want or need to get married. Marriage began as a religion thing anyway right? And don’t gay men and women have the benefit of claiming domestic partnership, something I as a straight man am not privileged to do. In order for me to claim my girlfriend for medical benefits at work I’d have to marry her. I’m not ready to marry her, but same sex partners could claim their boyfriends or girlfriends on their employers benefit programs via domestic partnership laws. I never thought that was fair but then again at least I had the option of marriage whereas same sex partners don’t. I also felt that should California allow same sex marriage then where would it end? Can a man ask to marry his dog? Can a woman ask to marry her biological brother? If marriage is currently only valid between a man and a woman then by allowing same sex marriage would mean that other people who want to marry let’s say their dog or brother would want to exercise their “constitutional” rights to marry as well. Not to mention that one of my gay friends actually voted for Prop 8 stating that he does not want to marry his boyfriend and wants to continue to take advantage of domestic partnership.
Well, I guess this is a great introduction as to why I don’t vote. I don’t vote because I never know all of the facts. I never really do my research. Another one of my gay friends answered the one question I really had on the whole subject and that is why? Why do gay men and women want to get married, why do they want that right? Well, not all states honor domestic partnership. So if I were gay living in California and found a great job that I was completely qualified for in another state that does not honor domestic partnership, I’d miss out on a great opportunity because my rights would be different in that state in regards to my partner. Now all states honor legal marriages and if I were to be married to my partner then my rights would be honored nationwide and in essence most countries in the world. It’s not so much a point that is trying to be made, it’s a right.
I don’t agree with Prop 8 anymore. I just hope that gay men and women don’t just rush and get married because they can. It’s the same as same sex couples. You have to know that person is the one. Marriage is a big step, it’s a big commitment. For those that are still opposed, consider the facts, it’s not about you, it’s about humanity and you need to remember that we are all different, though we’re not the same, we are “One”.
That picture is disgusting
ReplyDeleteIf you were to vote today, would you vote for or against Prop 8?
ReplyDeleteIt's not about politics it's about right and wrong and it is completely wrong for a man to wed a man and for a woman to wed a woman. It's just not right.
ReplyDeleteIt's biblically wrong
ReplyDeleteyou must b gay
ReplyDeleteThere is a reason God made man and woman and not man and man
ReplyDeleteSome people r so ignorant thank u for posting this
ReplyDeleteSorry that you feel the picture is disgusting Jared. Heather, I don't vote so my answer is neither. If I did vote I'd have to look into the whole issue further. I do believe that marriage is not just a privilege but a right. But I'm crossed between my beliefs. In other words, I now know some of the reasons why gay men and women want to get married and I fully agree with their reasoning, but I don't necessarily feel it's right. I know it sounds weird and like I'm contradicting myself and I apologize for that. Simply put, I believe gay men and women have every right to get married but my beliefs and values have groomed me to think otherwise. That's part of the reason I don't vote. William, why do you feel that it is wrong? Anonymous (1), I have never read the bible from beginning to end but from what I have read, I have yet to find where it specifically says a man or woman cannot mary the same gender. Anonymous (2), I'm not gay. Darren, I agree with your statement. That's another one of my billion questions on the topic but these are uncontrollable feelings that people go through and how can any of us expect them to change the way they feel? Eric, no problem...
ReplyDeleteYour about as confused as those fags.
ReplyDeletelilman, this is a great post. I am gay and everything you say here makes me believe that even though you are not gay that you as a straight person do understand and including your comment or response to heather, i completely understand you. There needs to be more people out there in the world like you. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteI wish I were gay
ReplyDeleteBeing gay is not wrong. Thinking that it is wrong, is wrong. And no, I'm not gay I'm just a realist.
ReplyDeleteare people born gay or is it taught
ReplyDeleteYou're born gay.
ReplyDeleteI don't vote because politicians and propositions are all full of lies.
ReplyDeletefags want to get married, fags want to join the armed forces what is the world coming to
ReplyDeleteThere are so many ignorant comments on here. thanks lilmanfatty for posting.
ReplyDeleteWhy do homosexuals want to get married? Straight people don't even want to get married nowadays.
ReplyDeleteThere sure are a lot of anonymous comments on this subject, I wonder why? In any case, Anonymous (3) I'm not really confused just really didn't know how to explain my answer to a particular question. Christopher, thank you. Anonymous (4) Why? Crystal, thank you for your comment and for being real. Andy, if I knew the answer to that question, I'd be a millionaire. I really don't know because I've heard two different theories. Anonymous (5), you may be right. Courtney, you're exactly right about that!!! Anonymous (6), if we were all as open minded as we should be then the world would be a whole lot better. Luis, No problem. Sean, funny and true.
ReplyDeleteIf you're not a fag then how could you be comfortable with that fag picture?
ReplyDeleteHey Anonymous 100, if you're not a fag then why are you getting turned on by "that fag picture"?
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure why the government even needs to get involved. Marriage is a right.
ReplyDeletemarriage is between man and woman
ReplyDeleteI agree marriage is between a man and a woman not between man and man or woman and woman or man and dog. The people of California have already spoken and the words were, no gay marriages. They already voted for it, that's what the people of California want so why are they trying to overturn it?
ReplyDeleteI am a man, like any other man. I am full of flaws, full of sin, full of good, full of bad. I am like you and you and you and you. Who the hell am I to determine who the hell decides to get married. If you (a man) want to marry a man, right or wrong, marry that man.
ReplyDeleteThank you Al. All of these ignorant hypocrites on here making comments that it is wrong or whatever. It is wrong to lie, cheat, and steal and I'm sure everyone that made a comment on here had done all of those things. Damn hypocrites!
ReplyDeletehypocrisy is global. You'll never manage to get rid of it but here they are on this very blog commenting about how wrong it is for a man to marry a man meanwhile some of these men on here have more than likely thought about being with a man. Don't hate haters. Let whoever get married. If someone wants to marry their dog then let them, why is it our business?
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 7, I am comfortable with that picture because I am comfortable with who I am. I'm more uncomfortable at looking at blood or someone throwing up, it makes me queezy but this picture does not bother me. Big Pete, thank you for the defense. Jennifer, thank you and I feel you're right. Anonymous 8, you're right, marriage is between a man and a woman but I'm having a hard time finding where it says anywhere that marriage is not between a man and man or a woman and a woman. Mike, I do have that same question but perhaps it's because people feel that Prop 8 was all wrong to begin with. Just because things are signed into law doesn't make it right. Al, thank you very much for your comment, that is exactly how I feel. Me, I agree with your point as well. Chance, thank you.
ReplyDeleteNow this shit is just gay
ReplyDeleteIt's not my business, by all means get married.
ReplyDeleteJorge, sorry you feel that way. Ted, thank you for you comment.
ReplyDeleteWhy would anyone want to get married?
ReplyDeleteI just read marriage is becoming obsolete.
ReplyDeleteWe are not one. I am me and fags are them.
ReplyDeleteoh hell no. sorry but fags have no busness joining the military least of all get marriage.
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